[Alessandra]

Hey guys! So for the last few weeks, maybe months, i've been attempting AP. Soemtimes it gets closer than others, but a LOT of times i just fall asleep! At first I was just trying before I went to bed, but about 2 weeks ago I accidentally woke up in the middle of the night and had to turn on the light, and when i was done and i went back to bed, i kind of de-tached but not really... it was like my spirit was hovering over my body, but my feet were still attached. Also, I get really excited and lose it sometimes. In general, haven't been able to project.

any techniques you guys care to share?

-Alexhttp://www.psychic-forum.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

(by the way, if my topic is in the wrong place, feel free to move it [mods!] or tell me where to go!)

This post has been edited by Alessandra: 10 March 2010 - 11:53 PM

[chris57]

Alessandra, on 10 March 2010 - 05:52 PM, said:

Hey guys! So for the last few weeks, maybe months, i've been attempting AP. Soemtimes it gets closer than others, but a LOT of times i just fall asleep! At first I was just trying before I went to bed, but about 2 weeks ago I accidentally woke up in the middle of the night and had to turn on the light, and when i was done and i went back to bed, i kind of de-tached but not really... it was like my spirit was hovering over my body, but my feet were still attached. Also, I get really excited and lose it sometimes. In general, haven't been able to project.

any techniques you guys care to share?

-Alexhttp://www.psychic-forum.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.gif

(by the way, if my topic is in the wrong place, feel free to move it [mods!] or tell me where to go!)

have you tried meditation, you can combine AP with meditation during a time you might be more awake(meditation need not be a cross legged pose with index fingers touching thumbs, it can just be a relaxed sitting pose on the ground against a wall, anything comfortable, close your eyes and make your mind a blank but with all but one topic, then with luck and your skills you may have vivid daydreams and feelings of leaving your body, but it tends to be like a dream not a physical thing, but its a great experience)

[Crystal Tarot]

Alessandra, may I ask what you are trying to achieve? There are many ways of 'travelling' depending on what you are after and perhaps where too?

[Alessandra]

Lady Of Avalon, on 14 March 2010 - 08:26 AM, said:

Alessandra, may I ask what you are trying to achieve? There are many ways of 'travelling' depending on what you are after and perhaps where too?

I guess I never thought of that. I guess nothing but exploration. I want to know (by experience) that i'm more than a physical being. And If this could help me communicate with my guides, that would be great, because I can feel their presence and I think they can hear me, but I can't hear them http://www.psychic-forum.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/sad.gif

[newtraveler]

Hi all,

I'm not looking to hijack the thread but can anyone talk about astral projection from the point of view of someone that regularly travels? I have always had a hard time conceptualizing how the five senses work while traveling. The basics seem to elude me and I'm not sure if I understand the core of AP. Does the soul leave the body and the world is seen through "spirit eyes" or would the actuality be more of a mind's eye kind of thing? Anyways I'll end the question here, I was just curious.

Newtraveler

[Crystal Tarot]

My belief is that the spirit/mind's eye leaves the body, the soul stays and keeps it in this world. All the sense work and can be used to gather information just as if the journey was real.

Alessandra, sorry for the delay in my reply, there are better ways to meet your guides if that is want you are trying to achieve :) Meditation is the best way, but many people do not believe in the concept of spirit guides. What if 'they' are in fact just our higher self, our sub-conscious, the inner soul of us?

[newtraveler]

Lady Of Avalon, on 29 March 2010 - 04:41 AM, said:

My belief is that the spirit/mind's eye leaves the body, the soul stays and keeps it in this world. All the sense work and can be used to gather information just as if the journey was real.

Is AP anything like NDE's? I know with NDE's people talk about seeing and hearing what is going on around them. Is this something that can be done with AP? Like is it plausible for me to AP and see and hear what is going on in another room?
Newtraveler

[Zanriel]

I've had quite a few OBE's myself. I might be able to help a little, at least in describing what it's like.

First off, it happens to me spontaneously when I'm in between sleeping and waking. It usually requires waking up at some point in the middle of the night, then falling back to sleep while staying awake on some level. Focusing on breathing and raising energy while falling asleep seems to help. I can usually feel it coming on because I'll feel a rush of energy coursing through my entire torso. It seems to correspond to where the 7 main chakras are located, and the energy usually seems to be moving from base to crown, almost like a stream of energy passing through. It feels like a vibration. As I drift into the experience, I can still sense my body, but the environment in the room and the house often changes. Sometimes I'll hear people walking around outside, or walking through the hall, I'll hear a radio playing, or other strange noises. The body feels stiff, and it takes a lot of difficulty to move my arms or legs. It can be a bit scary, especially if there are weird noises or you think you hear people. If I get too scared, I can take a series of fast breaths and that brings me back out. But if I just melt into it, eventually I'll feel my astral body start to come loose.

When that happens, I can move my astral arms while my physical arms stay still. Even with my eyes closed, I can start to see my astral body, almost like a second set of eyes. Once I start feeling loose, I can roll over. Even though I can still sense my physical body, and know it's still in the same position, my astral body will have shifted. I continue doing this, loosening more and more, eventually rolling over all the way like I'm on a rotisserie. Once I make a few rotations like that, I'm usually loose enough that I can pop out.

Another technique I've used is to channel energy through my legs, causing them to act like rocket boosters. I know it sounds crazy but it works! One morning I had about 3-4 OBE's in a row, and I used that exit technique every time and it worked.

Another common exit technique I've heard of (but never tried) is imagining a rope, and pulling yourself out of your body with the rope. Basically what's happening is you're playing tricks on yourself to make yourself believe you can exit. At that point intention takes over and does the rest. That's really the key - intention.

Once out, sometimes I have trouble controlling my movement. I might be stuck up around the ceiling, or I can't quite control my direction, so I just start repeating affirmations to myself like "I'm in full control of my movement." Do that a couple times and like magic, I'll suddenly find myself standing upright, able to move around normally.

I hope that helps!

Oh, and I would highly recommend reading some books on the subject. The best are ones by Robert Monroe, William Buhlman, and Robert Bruce. That should give you a real good idea of what to expect. Just reading about it and focusing your attention on the subject can make it happen, because again, it's all about intention.

[YodamboY]

Good intel thanks! :)

[newtraveler]

Zanriel, on 20 April 2010 - 07:44 PM, said:

I've had quite a few OBE's myself. I might be able to help a little, at least in describing what it's like.

First off, it happens to me spontaneously when I'm in between sleeping and waking. It usually requires waking up at some point in the middle of the night, then falling back to sleep while staying awake on some level. Focusing on breathing and raising energy while falling asleep seems to help. I can usually feel it coming on because I'll feel a rush of energy coursing through my entire torso. It seems to correspond to where the 7 main chakras are located, and the energy usually seems to be moving from base to crown, almost like a stream of energy passing through. It feels like a vibration. As I drift into the experience, I can still sense my body, but the environment in the room and the house often changes. Sometimes I'll hear people walking around outside, or walking through the hall, I'll hear a radio playing, or other strange noises. The body feels stiff, and it takes a lot of difficulty to move my arms or legs. It can be a bit scary, especially if there are weird noises or you think you hear people. If I get too scared, I can take a series of fast breaths and that brings me back out. But if I just melt into it, eventually I'll feel my astral body start to come loose.

When that happens, I can move my astral arms while my physical arms stay still. Even with my eyes closed, I can start to see my astral body, almost like a second set of eyes. Once I start feeling loose, I can roll over. Even though I can still sense my physical body, and know it's still in the same position, my astral body will have shifted. I continue doing this, loosening more and more, eventually rolling over all the way like I'm on a rotisserie. Once I make a few rotations like that, I'm usually loose enough that I can pop out.

Another technique I've used is to channel energy through my legs, causing them to act like rocket boosters. I know it sounds crazy but it works! One morning I had about 3-4 OBE's in a row, and I used that exit technique every time and it worked.

Another common exit technique I've heard of (but never tried) is imagining a rope, and pulling yourself out of your body with the rope. Basically what's happening is you're playing tricks on yourself to make yourself believe you can exit. At that point intention takes over and does the rest. That's really the key - intention.

Once out, sometimes I have trouble controlling my movement. I might be stuck up around the ceiling, or I can't quite control my direction, so I just start repeating affirmations to myself like "I'm in full control of my movement." Do that a couple times and like magic, I'll suddenly find myself standing upright, able to move around normally.

I hope that helps!

Oh, and I would highly recommend reading some books on the subject. The best are ones by Robert Monroe, William Buhlman, and Robert Bruce. That should give you a real good idea of what to expect. Just reading about it and focusing your attention on the subject can make it happen, because again, it's all about intention.

I tried a couple of the things you said that got you to AP. I had some questions so I started a new thread. Just thought I would let you know.